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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:00 pm

    The question is "Have you ever traded items using Kinzpost?" The choices were:
    Yes, I do all the time.
    Yes, I've done it a few times.
    I want to trade, but haven't done it yet.
    I would have, but do not think it is safe.
    I don't want to trade my items.

    It sounds like a trap to me. Here's why:
    Using the Site

    The Site is provided by Ganz and is intended to be used in a safe and enjoyable fashion. Users of the Site must not:

    Use the Site in such a way as to offend or interfere with the use by anyone else of the Site;
    Sell, trade or barter any items earned through the Site;
    Submit materials to the Site that violate any law, or in any fashion that infringe or interfere with the rights of others, including without limitation materials that (a) libel, defame, or invade the privacy of any third party, or which are obscene or pornographic; (b) infringe the intellectual property rights, including copyrights, of any third party; (c) violate any law or regulation; (d) advocate illegal activity; (e) advertise or otherwise solicit funds or are a solicitation for goods or services; or (f) are treated as confidential under any contract or policy;
    Attempt to circumvent the security systems of the Site;
    Attempt to gain access to the Site in a fraudulent manner, including but not limited to using fraudulent pet codes;
    Attempt to use the Site in a fraudulent manner, including but not limited to, using cheat codes, exploits or similar measures to gain, or attempt to gain, unearned KinzCash, items or access to the Site or pets.
    Attempt to gain access to any other user’s accounts;
    Attempt to ascertain any other user’s password, pet codes and/or personal information by any means whatsoever, including without limitation, by use of the Site or any other website, or by e-mail communication;
    Attempt to use the Site for any purposes other than those intended by Ganz, as determined by Ganz in its sole discretion; or
    Upload or submit any data or information that contains viruses or any other computer code, corrupt files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality or disrupt any software, hardware, telecommunications, networks, servers or other equipment.
    Ganz expressly reserves the right, which shall be exercised in its sole discretion, to remove any user from the Site and/or freeze the account(s) of any user who contravenes any of the provisions of the User Agreement, including but not limited to the provisions of this section entitled “Using the Site”.


    I would watch out when answering this poll. This was copied and pasted from the user agreement.

    I found something even more odd. I was just about to send my sister (you probably all know who she is. LOL) a note with my new stickers and stationery I received when I opened a code I got by purchasing Webkinz school supplies. And found this new message...

    Interesting Survey 2mmwydx

    Here are some conclusions that could answer this "mystery".
    1. It's a trap. Ganz has probably seen that people are trading items.
    2. Ganz is thinking about making a safe place to exchange items. Maybe a "TradePost".
    3. Ganz could be doing something else.




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    Female Number of posts : 2903
    Age : 27
    Webkinz ID : 78562
    Status : Interesting Survey Founde12Interesting Survey Donor14Interesting Survey Founde11Interesting Survey Etrade10
    Registration date : 2008-01-19

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    Post by Kristen Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:05 pm

    Wow, I never knew about this. What are we going to do? I love trading
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:12 pm

    I'm going to stop trading. =[
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:59 pm

    I updated it...
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:01 pm

    Huh? Weird....
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:03 pm

    guys, its nothing to worry about! =] Ganz has released that it is okay with them as long as they are not responsible

    They talk to sites like WI and give them info, interviws and more, and know they are the biggest trading network on the internet! =]

    People on WI have has inerviews with Ganz- they do not care one bit =]
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:06 pm

    It could still be dangerous to trade. Maybe ganz is making a safe trading post because they realize people love to do it. I don't know what's going on....
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:07 pm

    i guarentee you they wont delete any accounts 4 trading guys =]

    if they do ill give u my account, kayy? =]
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:10 pm

    i know what it says in the rules, but Ganz has said they don't care, but they're not responsible if you have problems . i think the stationary is okay.. i really dont think Ganz cares if someebody swapped exclusives with their friends.. Also, deleting people's account 4 trading isnt really important to them id susspect.... If they cared they'd fix the Glitches and add some good new stuff on WW- all they're concerned about is making money off the new pets and accesories...
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:11 pm

    Kayy ;>) lol
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:13 pm

    Thanks for posting that up. I suspect ganz knows there are a lot of traders out there. I'm guessing they made that survey to make a safe trading post inside webkinz. I'm hoping they will. Let's see what happens. I do take the rules of webkinz seriously becuase my parents usually pays for my webkinz, sometimes I pay though. And they'd be really mad at me if my account gets deleted. They'd be flaming red. Let's see what happens....
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:18 pm

    Katherine wrote:Thanks for posting that up. I suspect ganz knows there are a lot of traders out there. I'm guessing they made that survey to make a safe trading post inside webkinz. I'm hoping they will. Let's see what happens. I do take the rules of webkinz seriously becuase my parents usually pays for my webkinz, sometimes I pay though. And they'd be really mad if something to my account happens. They'd be flaming red.

    ill try to find the stuff from the Creative Diretor or Pes/. of Ganz on WI about trading. qnd how they're fine with it =]
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:42 pm

    Ally wrote:i know what it says in the rules, but Ganz has said they don't care, but they're not responsible if you have problems . i think the stationary is okay.. i really dont think Ganz cares if someebody swapped exclusives with their friends.. Also, deleting people's account 4 trading isnt really important to them id susspect.... If they cared they'd fix the Glitches and add some good new stuff on WW- all they're concerned about is making money off the new pets and accesories...
    Actually a member on another site got their account taken away for selling some of their retired items on Ebay. They do take some of the rules seriously.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:44 pm

    Bunnykinz wrote:
    Ally wrote:i know what it says in the rules, but Ganz has said they don't care, but they're not responsible if you have problems . i think the stationary is okay.. i really dont think Ganz cares if someebody swapped exclusives with their friends.. Also, deleting people's account 4 trading isnt really important to them id susspect.... If they cared they'd fix the Glitches and add some good new stuff on WW- all they're concerned about is making money off the new pets and accesories...
    Actually a member on another site got their account taken away for selling some of their retired items on Ebay. They do take some of the rules seriously.

    haha yes you can get in bif trouble for selling stuff on Ebay, but thats different and about it. The dont want people making cash on items and selling the items bugs them to no end, and they have clarifed that yo ucant do that. Trading is fine to them though suppsivly. I know Im not worried one bit....
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:47 pm

    another question- how would they find out everyone? You cant even find this site throught Yahoo or Google, you have to know the link? =]


    If they wanted to deete accounts mabye they'd go to something bigger like WI (which I promise you they wont anyways)

    but investigate this site with less that 100 members (pretty much) no
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:50 pm

    Ally wrote:another question- how would they find out everyone? You cant even find this site throught Yahoo or Google, you have to know the link? =]


    If they wanted to deete accounts mabye they'd go to something bigger like WI (which I promise you they wont anyways)

    but investigate this site with less that 100 members (pretty much) no
    Ganz can view how you vote and see what gifts you sent/received and who you sent/got them from.

    But I don't think they're going to delete accounts after I saw that message ...
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:51 pm

    Acually Ally, when you log in your webkinz account Ganz is able to veiw what other sites you are veiwing...
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:53 pm

    Katherine wrote:Acually Ally, when you log in your webkinz account Ganz is able to veiw what other sites you are veiwing...

    how? I doubt it thats an invasion of privacy they dont have a right too.. thats actually illegal if they do
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:55 pm

    Bunnykinz wrote:
    Ally wrote:another question- how would they find out everyone? You cant even find this site throught Yahoo or Google, you have to know the link? =]


    If they wanted to deete accounts mabye they'd go to something bigger like WI (which I promise you they wont anyways)

    but investigate this site with less that 100 members (pretty much) no
    Ganz can view how you vote and see what gifts you sent/received and who you sent/got them from.

    But I don't think they're going to delete accounts after I saw that message ...

    yes, but even if you're getting gifts from ppl, you can send gifts; you have a right to that and they would never know or be able to prove if you're rading.. you could just send a gidft and usually somebody would send one back =]
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:05 pm

    Katherine wrote:Acually Ally, when you log in your webkinz account Ganz is able to veiw what other sites you are veiwing...
    Actually they can't.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:09 pm

    yea..
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:28 pm

    Ally wrote:
    Bunnykinz wrote:
    Ally wrote:i know what it says in the rules, but Ganz has said they don't care, but they're not responsible if you have problems . i think the stationary is okay.. i really dont think Ganz cares if someebody swapped exclusives with their friends.. Also, deleting people's account 4 trading isnt really important to them id susspect.... If they cared they'd fix the Glitches and add some good new stuff on WW- all they're concerned about is making money off the new pets and accesories...
    Actually a member on another site got their account taken away for selling some of their retired items on Ebay. They do take some of the rules seriously.

    haha yes you can get in bif trouble for selling stuff on Ebay, but thats different and about it. The dont want people making cash on items and selling the items bugs them to no end, and they have clarifed that yo ucant do that. Trading is fine to them though suppsivly. I know Im not worried one bit....
    It kind of weird. We buy their product (Webkinz) and earn exclusives that are our's. When you buy the plush, the virtual item we receive we can use it as we desire. It's like selling an old book on Ebay. Yes, Ganz has the intellectual property laws on their side, but if that W-Shop Live thing is true. Ganz is selling a virtual item, therefore Ganz are losing their intellectual right safety if they're claiming that they own every single virtual item on the site. If I decide to sell a book written by Bob Green (I made up a name) then I am not violating his intellectual rights---I have every right to do so. Ganz' intellectual rights were never broken because that member didn't decide to create another site called WebkinzWorld2 and use their ideas and codes. Everyone was just selling their free virtual item that they received by adopting a Webkinz and using their money to buy Ganz' product. Ganz does not have the right to shut down someone's account threaten them. The virtual items are free---how is it breaking the rules again if you sell the plushie, but you cannot sell the virtual item? We buy their virtual items for money, so why can't they be re-sold for money, but the plushies can?

    What I don't understand is why Ganz tells us that a glitch that gave you extra KC is "cheating". I'm not saying that over-using that glitch to earn more kinzcash isn't using your account in a fraudulent manner. But---the glitch wasn't created by the user who's account had a glitch. It was a glitch on Ganz's website. They should take some responsibility on taking care of those glitches. We lose many items from many glitches---and who is feeling the pain---us! The consumers of their product! But of course....life isn't fair.



    Yes, law is very confusing. LOL. =]
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:05 pm

    good idea #:>)
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:05 pm

    i definatly agree with you bunnykinz..

    more response later, but im super worried how everyone seems to be shutting down there GE's..

    I can guarentee everyone here they will never delete you account for trading on here.
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    Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:17 am

    Katherine wrote:I'm going to stop trading. =[

    Kathy don't stop trading!!!!!! plz, don't stop, i really wanted 2 trade with u...... trading is the reason that I come on this site, but I also do contests! I love 2 trade, and how could Ganz know that we're trading or not? Maybe if someone sent some food to someone and they sent some back is like trading? No, its not. This is not fair for others if Ganz won't let us trade! Plz PM me, Kathy! = (

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